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    6 Lessons From Catherine Austin Fitts’ Jaw-dropping Interview With Karen Hunter

    By Veronika LleshiOctober 17, 20255 Mins Read
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    Earlier this month, Pulitzer-prize Prize-winning journalist and host of “The Karen Hunter Show,” Karen Hunter, sat down with investment banker Catherine Austin Fitts.

    At times, Fitts’ contrasting opinions irked viewers, particularly when she insisted that she knew far more about slavery than Hunter, an actual descendant of enslaved people.

    “You can’t pay me enough to be a slave,” Fitts boldly declared.

    While her words may have sparked some outrage, the discussion was a brutally honest insight into Fitts’ world.

    Here are the six key takeaways from the interview.

    1. Stay hopeful. In her interview with Hunter, Fitts’ first lesson to note was to “not buy into hopelessness.” The current term so far has already been marred with multiple changes, including changes to the H-1B visa process, immigration laws and federal positions. Despite this, as we attempt to find solutions, Fitts’ main reminder is to not give in to the feelings of hopelessness and be proactive about what you can do to change things.

    Quote: “John Rappaport once said, ‘Hopelessness is an op and it’s planet wide,” said Fitts. “Don’t fall for it.’ That’s number one. It’s not hopeless..My nickname for the system is the tapeworm. All solutions revolve around detoxing the tapeworm out of your mind, out of your body and out of your finances and starting to feed yourself what is nutritious for you.”

    1. Use cash. Along with praying as part of this “spiritual war,” Fitts recommended that people find a balance between analog and digital currencies. In the interview, the investment banker warned that the future is heading towards a fully controlled digital transaction system that will take the power away from transactors. To help combat this, Fitts recommended “walking back” the digital system by using cash. To prevent inflation, one could also hold cash in real assets, such as inventory and jewelry and pay off debt.

    Quote: “What these guys want to build is a digital control grid and, once they get a digital ID and 100% digital transaction system with no paper currency, what are they going to do? They’re going to throw a switch and put us in a digital concentration camp,” said Fitts.

    1. Inflation is likely to worsen. The dollar has been steadily declining for several years. In the first half of this year alone, the dollar has dropped by 11%, marking the biggest decline in the past five decades, according to Morgan Stanley. The current administration is attempting to increase “dollar dominance’ through a series of campaigns to plunder places, including Portland, according to Fitts. Through the deployment of the military, the administration is attempting to bolster dollar dominance. With the GENIUS Act, the administration is also attempting to use cryptocurrency to encourage other nations to adopt the dollar.

    Quote: “Literally what you’re trying to do is get everybody in Ecuador, Bolivia and the European Union off of their currency and onto the dollar by accessing them through the crypto systems, “ said Fitts. “I don’t understand the details of how they plan to do it, but one of the ways they intend to get everybody onto stable coins is with very liberal credit terms, lending money to farmers all over the world.”

    1. Remove your money from the big banks. In her interview, Fitts emphasized the importance of using the services of a local community bank or credit union, as it is the big banks that are helping fuel the plan for a digital grid. Fitts also highlighted the deterioration of the pharmaceutical system and the healthcare system, urging people to develop plans to obtain local, fresh food from trustworthy vendors. Through sourcing truly healthy foods, people can prevent the poisoning of their minds and bodies, as well as fight against the probable future in which lab-grown meat will be the only food our money can provide, according to Fitts.

    Quote: “You need to not let yourself get poisoned on a continuing basis and that means you’ve got to revolutionize your personal responsibility for food and health,” said Fitts. “You’ve got to be your own doctor, and you’ve got to, if you’re not your own gardener, find and organize with other people to make sure you have really healthy food.”

    1. Fitts voted for Trump in 2016, 2020 and 2024.Fitts claims that the state legislators are the best “freedom fighters” and that a Republican White House benefits them the most. She also claimed that Trump brings transparency and that the motivation behind voting for him was to “bring about change” as the uniparty has two sides that are stealing $21 trillion from Americans. In the span of nine months, 209 executive orders have been signed by the Trump administration, increasing tariffs, withdrawing from the World Health Organization, targeting DEI and enforcing A.I. development. As the government shutdown continues, reports of the federal deficit decreasing are emerging, but this is expected to change once the One Big Beautiful Bill Act takes effect. Throughout the next decade, according to the CBO, that bill will increase the deficit by an additional $3.4 trillion, with the potential for another $718 billion in interest costs to be added.

    Quote: “Michael Moore said that if Trump was elected it would be the biggest FU in history and I suddenly realized that, if you can’t fix something, break it,” said Fitts.

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    Veronika Lleshi is an aspiring journalist. She currently writes for Hunter College's school newspaper, Hunter News Now. In her free time, she enjoys reading, writing and making music. Lleshi is an Athena scholar who enjoys getting involved in her community.

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